Saturday, 13 October 2018

Circular No 884







Newsletter for alumni of The Abbey School, Mt. St. Benedict, Trinidad and Tobago, W.I.
Caracas, 13 of October 2018 No. 884
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Dear Friends,
Brian Costelloe and Paul de la Bastide, here is a Facebook conversation that is missing the photo, please send it to me for publication.
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PABLO HAS A PACK OF BRISTOL CIGARETTES IN FRONT PANTS POCKET
these photos are great! Where were you? I have or had a photo of Paul in exactly the same 'pose' ! Any more ?
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Hah, Brian you are so right. I forgot about that brand. I quit about 15 years ago from 3 packs of Camels a day.
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7 JUNE 2014 MADE IT 9 YEARS NO SMOKING ….. (CIGARETTES THAT IS )….FROM 1 PACK/ DAY
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Brian now I understand why you only were smoking 1 pack a day because you were smoking other roll ups in between.
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SMOKE EM, IF YOU HAVE EM.
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Going back a half a century
I can remember Fr. Peter, the Priest that was in the confessional most of the time, to be very nice.
By the way, if my memory serves me right, the confessional was not a booth but two chairs separated by a screen??
I am expecting Isaias Farcheg´s lines soon, he was one of the assiduous Mass goers, serving the Priest during the Mass and then making sure the wine bottle was well disposed off.
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From: "Donald Goddard" <dgoddard1@cox.net>
Date: 14 Jul 21:48 (PDT)
Dear Ladislao:
As I read your description of the daily mass we had to attend during our time at Mount (1953-1958), I recall that mass didn't seem to bother me too much.
What I didn't enjoy having to go to confession once a week and invent sins.
This is no joke!
I recall one time when I was probably nine or ten years old, I went to one of those weekly confessions and I began to speak with that lovely Trini accent with which we spoke in those days; "Forgive me Fada for I have sinned, it does be one week since me las confession but I cyant recall anyting I did dat was bad".
The priest answers me. "Well son, let me try to help you out and refresh your memory. Did you fight with anyone? Did you disobey anyone? Did you take anything that did not belong to you and did you tell any lies? Now let me hear you my son".
With such great prompting, I decided to come up with some terrible sins. "Yes Fada now I does remember wat I did dat was very bad. Two days ago I pelted Urbano wid one of Broder Joseph stale hops bread and he got one ugly black eye. Yesterday I does stole some julie mangos dong de road and brother Swa caught me and pulled me ear, and four days ago I disobeyed me fada and me muda. But as far as I does recall I have not tole no lies."
What was my big surprise after I felt so good that I had told all my sins, when all of a sudden he shouts at me through that little screen in his perfect Dutch accent. "You are nothing but a big liar."
I replied trembling,"Why Fada does you tink so."
And again I heard this loud voice from behind the little screen. "First of all I just saw Urbano and he doesn't have any black eye. Also, brother Swa as you so disrespectfully call that lovely, smelly man, has taken leave for the last two weeks and is not here. And finally your mother and father don't live here at Mount." 
All I could say was;   "Ok Fada, you does be right . For lying to you, instead of three Hail Marys I can say a whole rosary."
Quite upset by now, he finally said to me, "I make the rules here, not you and you will say not one but two rosaries, and next week you had better come back with some real sins and not such silly lies."
Well to make this long story short, from that day on and after having to say two long rosaries, I became so scared of lying that I started committing real sins.
The following week I truly pelted Urbano and as many Mount boys as I could pelt with the hardest stale bread I could find.
Then I became the best mango thief at Mount and I ran so fast Swa could never catch me. I even stole juicy and honey from dem behives.
Then I tried my best to disobey every rule at Mount.
All of this, in keeping with the good Fada's advice to bring real sins to the confessional at not make up lies.
He was correct, and from then on for telling the truth and not making up sins, I only got three Hail Mary's and no long rosaries.
The moral of this true story is that you must commit as many sins as possible to keep our priests happy when you go to confession, but you must never lie.
No, no, none of dat. 
Well Ladislao, I'm quite sure that most Mount boys experienced similar situations when going to weekly confessions.
If any of you deny this you does be lying because I can name many mango tiefs and stale bread pelters like myself and you all know who you does be.
I won't name anyone out of respect.
Please pass this on to our group to see how many will admit to the TRUTH.
Best regards to all.
Donald Goddard
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From: "Donald Goddard" <dgoddard1@cox.net>
Date: 4 Jul 22:10 (PDT)
Ladislao:
Por fin sali en una Foto. Ese soy yo en la foto con Roberto Bodington.
Quizas Roberto tiene otros de Brian y Christian tambien con el.
Translation: At last I came out in a photo. That's me with Roberto Bodington. Perhaps Roberto has other photos of Brian and Christian with him.
Saludos, Donald
(Donald, give me the photo number, so that I may substitute the number for your name, ed.)
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WhatsApp
20-04-2017 Moffie Edgar: Winston, Lasislao, Azizul...let Frank expedite a detail of what was delivered in order to have things clear.....
20-04-2017 Kenny Azizul: Hey Ladislao how u doing this is Aziz How things with u how u keeping is there anything I can do  Please do not hesitate and I am sure u have my personal email if not it's azizulkenny@hotmail.com
20-04-2017 Ladislao: Hi Aziz   I have been reading all you write.  Welcome to talk to a gasified abbey boy
20-04-2017 Kenny Azizul: Yes I have been reading a lot so I understand
20-04-2017 Ladislao: Joe. Let frank tell you on his procedure.  He sent it to me and I agreed as to the goods given to the recipients.  I just wonder if you miss understood him
20-04-2017 Kenny Azizul: My family in Trinidad house is overflowing with friends and family from Venezuela so I am very aware of everything
20-04-2017 Ladislao: Ok, hope this thing changes.  The ones In power just cannot make progress
20-04-2017 Berment Joseph: Edgar, This has nothing to do with what we did last year when Frank visited but rather what Winston said he is doing/organising in a recent email. Effectiveness is a collective effort not a burst of individualism. Did you guys attend the Abbey School and were some of you scouts even Queen Scouts? Feeling good is not the same as doing good.  That should be feeling
20-04-2017 Ladislao: We are just talking about food that TT guys sent over last year.  And the plans for another shipment
20-04-2017 Berment Joseph: I don't see the need to. The issue is that Winston says that he is organising something that doesn't need any involved accountability (which I don't think is necessarily the most effective way) and that Frank and those whom he is close to don't seem to know enough or anything at all about it. Anyone can do whatever they want. If it is to be highly effective or accountable it needs to be open and transparent, so that we can get the most support. It is not necessary to inform everyone of who the recipients are: only the organisers. We don't even need to be thanked. What is needed is if Ladislao (for instance) would confirm need and delivery and assist in making the least expensive shipping arrangements. Previously, we paid more than the goods cost in air freight, which it may be possible to reduce and ship more.  I can only organise things if I have sufficient information and a proper request. The committee will make its best effort when it is informed of individual needs on a confidential basis and is assured of proper arrangements for shipping, receiving and distribution. Anything else is individual efforts, which nonetheless are not to be discouraged, in the absence of anything else. I am very disappointed that we haven't received the required collaboration to do more. If you talk to and make arrangements with individuals they will do the best that they can.
20-04-2017 Ladislao: Since I have been mentioned and have tried to help before Frank left for TT . I feel that someone in TT should have made a list and have sent it to me.  This would have helped. Once the goods arrived at frank's. He sent me a list and I told him to break it up proportionately to cover four recipient s.  That was my involvement.  Now, the future could be different as mentioned by Joe.  The Maturin guys could again be served having a guy fly over.  This is a must for the medicine as it needs to be hand carried. The guy in Maracaibo needs direct shipment.
20-04-2017 Kenny Azizul: Ladislao do u have any contact in NY or NJ
20-04-2017 Ladislao: None In Miami I have a family member
20-04-2017 Kenny Azizul: Ok let me thing and I will get back to u I will have to make some calls
20-04-2017 Berment Joseph: How can we make a list and confirm the needs of individuals in Venezuela? It is for someone trustworthy in Venezuela to do that. Last time because of the absence of a formal request and open information sharing I didn't have a need that I could take to the committee, so a few of us took it upon ourselves to get it done, even without accountability and only because of the inability to plan better. The cost in planning organisation and execution was several hours, possibly as much as 80 person hours, in addition to the cost of the goods. Winston, says that he is organizing and some seem to be aware of the arrangements already.
20-04-2017 Bodington Roberto: This is for Ladislao from Skull. You don't have to worry about the guy from mcbo; its own not easy. I'll be fine.
20-04-2017 Kenny Azizul: Ladislao can I have his number in Miami
20-04-2017 Berment Joseph: To me, it is entirely inexplicable and inexcusable that we don't have the information which we need to go forward as a committee - -information which I asked for several times last year. I have speculated that there isn't really a need and that all of our Venezuelan brothers really don't need the association to help.
20-04-2017 20:04:05: Mt Ramsahai Winston 99: Guys we were planning Fed ex. Box to individuals directly ... The situation changed dramatically .... Understand Frank. Will come fly to TT or I can fly over to Maturin and carry maximum load
20-04-2017 Ramsahai Winston 99: Happy Birthday Ladislao Will communicate with Joe. GFaria, Jimmy. Toddy, Ian, Mike and others Tommorow
20-04-2017 Berment Joseph: There is no "we" as far as the ASAA is concerned. Everyone if free to have their own individual effort. Ladislao, anytime that you request assistance ( after you assess their individual needs and priority) from the association, and share the information with us confidentiality, i'll take  it to the committee and deal with it as robustly an effectively as possible. I am not going to pick out between several individuals (possibly, in dire circumstances) to determine who I'll favour, without knowing individual circumstances. It will be foolish of us to assume that everyone in Venezuela circumstances are the same or that we can find enough resources to provide everyone even with supplies that they don't need.  Please collaborate with us to find the best means of delivery.  I have to say also that I don't see any point in getting involved in any situation where there is going to be duplication of effort.  That is only if you are doing something and not preventing things from getting done.
21-04-2017 Coscarart Salvador: Joseph. How are you doing. Please if you have Frank Malaver phone # Please send it to me. They are three brothers that attended the abbey school the younger one is Jose we used to call him (Chente). Best wishes.
21-04-2017 Berment Joseph: Salvador, I send you Frank's contact card a bit later.
21-04-2017 Coscarart Salvador: Ok thank you much.
21-04-2017 Bodington Roberto: I don't know who is Berment. But I think his insinuations are out of line. As we say in spanish "cada ladron jusga por su condicion". Please take me off your list. Tks.
21-04-2017 Kenny Azizul: So it just came out in the news CITGO donated 500,000 to Trump
21-04-2017 Berment Joseph: Let me help you Julios. I'll leave so you and idiots like you can stay and have fun.
21-04-2017 Gomes Ian: First of all Joe I will like you to reconsider your leaving. Secondly, Julios, I do not think you are aware that Joe is instrumental in organising shipments to Venezuelans in need. I understand Joe's points. Our association is a small and in the next 20 years may be non existent as the school no longer operates. The association also has listed funding of which Joe is a MAJOR contributor. He has also been the Main driving force in rising funding for shipments to Venezuela for those in need. As a previous member of the association I wish to assure you that with his leaving the chat only those in need will suffer.  There are a number of old boys who can attest to this. Once again I implore Joe to reconsider.
21-04-2017 Zanelli Enrique: Ian, he already left
21-04-2017 Gomes Ian: I sent it to him as well.
21-04-2017 Zanelli Enrique: I can only add him back if he asks
21-04-2017 Gomes Ian: I am chatting with him.
21-04-2017 Zanelli Enrique: Ok... let me know... tell him no need to get upset
21-04-2017 Gomes Ian: He is upset.
21-04-2017 Zanelli Enrique: Misunderstanding on both ends
21-04-2017 Ibarra Frank: Jajajajajaj...día de la secretaria
21-04-2017 Ramsahai Winston 99: Guys I agree with Ian this is not the time for distraction, we all are not perfect, Joe have Made significant contribution to the Alumni and will be communicating with him. Let focus on Venezuela.  Faria had pledged to buy Frank airfare and we have donors to buy whatever he needs
21-04-2017 Zanelli Enrique: I don't know whats the deal with all these old men acting like little kids...
21-04-2017 Ramsahai Winston 99: Available in TT, it's pre cooked sending with Frank
21-04-2017 Ramsahai Winston 99: Another item Pledges was received from Faria, Jimmy, Toddy, Mitra Chankar, Mike, Winston we met the budget fur this shipment
22-04-2017 Ladislao: Where is Antonio Mezzana?  He is not known by any of the lunch group.  Pls tell Salvador to tell Antonio to call me I keep track of all Venezuelans with a phone number. Help me Salvador If you know of any old boy living in Venezuela let me know, I maybe able to help or those in the list to help
22-04-2017 Kenny Azizul: Ladislao can u sent me ur family in Miami number
22-04-2017 Ladislao: Sorry Azizul but I am trying to contact them first and as soon as I do you shall get the contact number.
22-04-2017 Kenny Azizul: Ok
22-04-2017 Ladislao: What information do you require Azizul?
22-04-2017 Zanelli Enrique: Ladislao... are you sure of that last name... i think its Mezzana
22-04-2017 Kenny Azizul: I would like to find out how I can send stuff for u  From NJ
22-04-2017 Ladislao: Ok. I can give you the door to door shipper that my wife's sister uses.
22-04-2017 Kenny Azizul: Ok
22-04-2017 Ladislao: Eurosur Logistics...
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EDITED by Ladislao Kertesz,  kertesz11@yahoo.com,  if you would like to be in the circular’s mailing list or any old boy that you would like to include.
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Photos:
11LK5716FBASEWFE, Alfredo Seaforth and wife
10JS0005JSHGRP, Joe Schomaker and Attila Gyuris
57UN0001NEWSPAPER,  Matias and Urbano Fedak, Manuel Prada etc.
07EV7470GRP, Fr. Cuthbert, Christopher Knowles, Gordon Mitchell






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